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| Sure -- I would love to hear any suggestions for a name. And, MOA, the idea behind the starter kit is to let new hobbyists put fish in the day after they start the kit. All of the products I have tested work just fine, and introducing fish is the way to start the Nitrogen Cycle. My epxerience hanging aroiund lfs's and talking to hobbyists is that new folks are simply not going to look at an empty tank -- and given that fact, the idea of the starter kit is to make them successful adding some fish the day after they set the tank up.
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when I started i had no clue what i was doing, fortunetly the guy at the store did so was lucky, but yeah thats a great idea
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| Some names: Instant Cycle F.I.S.H. Stands for: Fish In Some Hours C.Y.C.L.E. Stands for: Cycling Your Crazy Little Ecosystem
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| I really like the F.I.S.H fattyfish. I would suggest adding an A to the beginning for Add Fish in Some hours. I like it though.
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| Hm... or... QuickFish I dunno. I'm out. Anyone else?
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| ...I guess I'd rather foster patience than feed an insatiable hunger for more and more. What beginners want to do and should do are often two different things. If you give them an excuse to not do research or take a more active role in their hobby, then the will think that the rest of their hobby works the same way. They will be impatient and want to add 20 fish to the little ten-gallon aquarium; they also will not know what to do should something go wrong with their cycle if they don't have first-hand experience with the cycle. My basic point is this: If you tailor to the beginner, where do you draw the line? When does the beginner become responsible? Why shouldn't a beginner have to learn the long way so that we can be sure that they are dedicated to the fish and not simply to the novelty of the idea? Personally, do-it-quick methods methods scare me because they showcase the wrong attitude, which, in turn, can ruin the beginner later on. I really don't want impatient people in this hobby. I want ones that are wholely dedicated to their fish and are willing to take time to research a purchase. The product you're talking about would foster same-day purchases; people who get the inkling to keep fish would walk out with a tank the same day, without doing any real research or seeing if their personal goals are conducive to dedicated fishkeeping. All-in-all, this is a great method for preventing initial mistakes, but it cannot and will not replace a truly dedicated aquarist. As such, you have a nice get rich scheme: suck them in with a seemingly simple product that encourages them to buy hundreds of dollars worth of equipment. Hmm, what a nice racquet. Ironically, my unwillingness to advocate such improper attitudes is what got me kicked out of PetSmart. Ok, I'm done ranting and must admit that this single product won't bring down civilization or anything, but it does represent some shaky ground. In itself it's not bad, but be very careful with your advertising methods. Respectfully, MOA
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