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Missing RCS?

FattFishy — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:11:26 GMT

Statistics:

pH 7.6

DH 12

Tankmates: 3 Panda Cories, 6 Neon Tetras, 1 shy Honey Gourami

The pandas are 1 inch each, neons... two are 1.5 inches and others about 0.75-1 inch. Honey Gourami adult size, 2 inches. It's really shy and doesn't have any aggression toward anything or anyfish.

Ammonia, Nitrite: 0 ppm

Nitrate: 10 ppm

No shrimp has ever died of copper or calcium lack.

What happened: So I have 5 Red Cherry Shrimp (RCS from now on) and I can only see one at a time. Thing is, I have a gut feeling they're dead... Either they were eaten and killed, died and eaten, hiding, or dead. But I really want to know what happened... I have seen 2 at a time very recently though.

Here's a pic of my tank to show what hiding places there are:

The Hornwort floating is much more thick due to rapid growth so keep that in mind.

Questions:

1. Are the RCS most likely alive or dead?

2. Can any of the tankmates possibly have eaten them?

3. Are they hiding?

Any input or opinion will be taken gratefully!

Joker vs Filter

Nikita — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:17:18 GMT

This morning upon feeding my new stock of neon tetras their breakfast, I noticed that the food wasn't circulating around the surface of the tank. I rolled my eyes and prepared to fiddle with the cloth on most of the intake tube (it keeps the current low but sometimes falls and blocks the flow). However, one look at the intake tube assured me that a cloth blockage wasn't my problem. A snail blockage was.

My golden apple snail, Joker, was on the intake tube, completely blocking the water flow. And then I realized...he'd been there since yesterday. I didn't think anything of it at the time, since he wanders over anything and everything in the tank, but now I realized that he was either stuck...or worse.

I disconnected the intake tube and pulled it out, snail still attached. I put my nose to him. He didn't smell dead. He didn't fall out of the intake slots either. So I gently peeled Joker out of the filter tube, dreading the moment when his dead body was going to pull loose from its moorings and go all over my fingers.

It didn't, though. When I got the last bit of foot off the filter, he retracted into his shell and closed the operculum tightly. A dead snail loses that muscle control and will remain with operculum open. I placed him back in the tank, where he floated a bit. Then he released the air from within his shell and sank to the bottom of the tank.

I didn't post this in Freshwater Emergencies because it's not really a condition that there's a great deal of help for. He'll either survive a day in the intake tube or he won't. I'll be checking in on him in between classes...and hoping that this wasn't Joker's last laugh.

anemones

jmarc616 — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:23:24 GMT

My live rock started with one anemone. Now I have many. I need to find out how to control or get rid of them. Anyone have any information?

My shrimp setup. Stats/pics.

Nikita — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:24:41 GMT

I finally got together decent pictures of my setup, and since the focus of my tank right now is shrimp, I decided to post the specs of my tank here with pictures as references. Feel free to incorporate any elements you like into your own tanks. :)

Here is the entire planted setup. The plants, in order from left to right, are corkscrew vallisneria, marsilea quadrifolea (aquatic four-leaf clover), cabomba, a small cultivar of Amazon sword, water wisteria (background), cryptocoryne wendtii (midground), Java fern.

The tank currently houses 14 ghost shrimp; I never see them all at one time anymore because a) they're transparent and b) they're amazing at hiding. Here's one on the leaf of an Amazon sword. I grew this particular plant emersed in a tarantula tank and have transplanted it to this setup; this is its maximum size. It's still adjusting to immersion and has not sent out new leaves yet.

Here's another good shrimp pic featuring the water wisteria. This and the above picture are of medium-sized shrimp; the one very large one I have was in too difficult a position to photograph. The wisteria is showing the most growth on the left side and is re-orienting itself towards the light.

Now, my camera distorts the quality of the light in my tank. I'm using two Sylvania 20-watt compact fluorescent bulbs in an incandescent fixture rated for up to 25 watts. So, 4wpg on my tank. The light in the tank is actually a pleasantly clear hue, not the strong yellow picked up by the camera. This picture here shows the "blue" side of the light; if you combine the two in your imagination, you'll get a good picture of what the light looks like.

And here's a detail picture of a few shrimp in that same bluish hue; sometimes the camera does it yellow and sometimes blue. Sometimes it makes it look like there's not a light on at all. :/ Anyway, in this picture you can clearly see the substrate. I'm using a natural creek sand taken from the creek on my property; the water is chemical/pesticide free. The sand is 1.5 inches deep on average and was washed thoroughly outside until the water ran clear.

In addition, I'm using a variation of the "earth as a substrate" method. The dirt-like material is processed coconut fiber, which you can purchase as reptile bedding. I rehydrated it and washed it several times, sifting off the portion that naturally floats, and added it to the tank. Here also you can see part of a natural root that I collected, which not only adds to the decor but gives my plants something to anchor to.

Above is a shot detailing the cryptocoryne and the driftwood I collected, to which some Java moss is tied. The cryptocoryne was potted but had been overturned, so the plant grew "sideways" as it aimed for the light. In only a few days it has mostly turned upright again, and the roots are already anchored firmly in the substrate.

Below is a shot of the corkscrew vallisneria. It's still deciding if it wants to grow well or not; some older leaves are showing brown at the tips, but many of the leaves are showing a much brighter green color. One is unanchored but I'm letting it send roots on its own rather than disturb the other plants:

Lastly is a shot showing some of the new fronds of the marsilea (clover) and the beautiful, lush growth of the cabomba. In the next few days I'll be doing the first cuttings from the cabomba plant, as it's already hitting the water surface with its new leaves. The shrimp love to shuffle around in there are find tidbits of food.

As I write, one of the shrimps is taking a foray to the surface of the tank and another is picking food off a floating, decaying clipping of a vallisneria leaf. It seems like I never see the same shrimp twice, they hide so well. The large shrimp is now sifting through the Java moss on the driftwood. They love the finer plants that they can work their mouthparts though.

So far I have not had any mortalities; the shrimp seem content in their own private oasis.

If you have any questions or comments just shout. I know that was a long post...and it was mostly plants, I realize now. Oh well, it's an invertebrate tank and the invert section needs more posts anyway. ;)

Red Cherry Shrimp w/ Neons?

Nikita — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 20:23:59 GMT

I went to the awesome little aquarium store in the town closest to my college (the school's way out in the boonies) and the owner told me he just sold out of his last red cherry shrimp. On the one hand, I missed out...but on the other hand, he'll get more! I get RCS!

After my elation had passed, I thought about the mechanics of the community I'm building, however. I know that it's foolhardy to keep shrimp with cichlids or some barbs or really anything that's a) big or b) has a mean streak. Especially small ones like red cherry shrimp; they just couldn't handle even being picked at by fish.

But what about neon tetras? They're tiny compared to many fish. A half-inch RCS is going to be half a neon's size! And both the shrimp and the fish are so peaceful. Would my RCS be in danger of being picked at or even eaten by a school of, say, six neon tetras?

I'd appreciate if anyone who's kept the two together or kept RCS with other small tetras could throw some info at me...four bucks a shrimp is pricey if they're just going to be a characin snack.

Could I?

CephalopodLover — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 06:51:43 GMT

I was wondering if I could keep some shrimp in my crayfish tank ? What would I need to do that ?

Crayfish and Jack

filipem — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:01:04 GMT

Does anyone know if it's possible to keep a electric blue crayfish with a Jack Dempsey?

Crayfish Wanted

slowhand35 — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:18:20 GMT

I have set up another rack so I now have room for some more crayfish groups.
I am currently looking for a few types of crays from Alabama, Mississippi, and Missouri.
If you live in one of these states and are interested in catching some and trading or selling them to me, email me at everynowanthen29456@yahoo.com
Include your state and county/city in your email so I can see if any of the crays I'm looking for are in your area.
I currently breed some rare and a couple common species of crays including Cambarus, Procambarus, Cambarellus, and Cherax species crays that I could trade.
I also have some cherry shrimp and a few others. I currently have a large amount of fissidens moss as well, most use it in their invert tanks to attach to wood and rocks.
Take care.
Bill

# of shrimp in a 10g tank

Nikita — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:27:00 GMT

I got my aquarium planted, the filter cartridge is seeding in an established tank, things are running smoothly. So I went to the pet store and came home with 10 ghost shrimp.

They look so happy! They comb through my sand/earth substrate and keep the plants tidy and their little swimmerets go whirrrrr. I'm really pleased with the little guys.

Now, is ten a good number to start off with? I'm going to stock the tank with a school of neon tetras, but not for at least three to four weeks. Any cycling in the substrate oughta be done by then, and definitely the filter colonization. So should I add more at any point? Right now I've basically got a shrimp species tank. I know they aren't heavy on the bio-load, so I wondered what number of them is ideal in a 10g.

...For that matter, if it's advisable to have more, ghost shrimp and red cherry shrimp would be compatible, right? I'm waiting in limbo to see if I'll be able to get some.

Ghost Shrimp

FastFoward5k — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 06:46:56 GMT

I have a betta in a 1/2 gallon right now. (I will be moving him into a 4 gallon soon.) I want to add a ghost shrimp in with my betta. But my mom won't let me unless it requires next-to-none care, so here are my questions:

Does it need to eat anything other than algae and crumbs?

Will it make a bigger mess than it cleans up?

Can it be in a 1/2 gallon, and then in a 4?

Thanks. :D

snail life

bettasrcool — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:30:56 GMT

What is the typical lifespan for apple snails? Also can they live on just algae that builds up in the aquarium or do you need to provide some type of other food for them?

IS MY SHRIMP DEAD?

FastFoward5k — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 07:03:01 GMT

My shrimp is sitting under the plants lying on his back. He has turned a milky white, not his usual transparent color. My betta is ignoring him, but is he dead or is he just shedding? I think they turn pink when the die but he is white so is he just molting? HELP!

Where to find shrimp?

Nikita — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 20:47:18 GMT

I have so many plans swarming in my mind about the 10-g I plan to set up in my dorm room when college starts. I love that pre-setup rush. ;)

I'm going to do a low-pH soft water setup, good lighting for fairly lush plantings; driftwood, and slate, and stock with some smaller tetras (thanks for the input on that, FattFishy).

So for added spice in my community, I've decided to try shrimp. Maybe a snail here and there, but I'm keen on trying out shrimp, which I've never worked with before.

Unfortunately, there's a reason I've never worked with shrimp. They're impossible to find around here. :(

I don't exactly live in the epicenter of aquaculture. There are two small pet stores near me, a specialty aquarium store 45 minutes away, and the nearest city has a Petco and a Petsmart. So my question is twofold: Do larger chains stock these critters? The Petco is brand-new, so I don't know if it's a common item there. I saw one bamboo shrimp there for ten bucks. Seems a bit high for a shrimp.

The second question is, if the larger chains don't have them (I'm looking for red cherry shrimp in particular but I'll take what I can get), is it possible to have a smaller store order them from their supplier? I've never tried that before, so I don't know if they can or if they have to order a big shipment wholesale.

I really want shrimp! Thanks in advance for any input on the matter.

Shrimp?

Armand — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:59:02 GMT

I do!

Snail shell color

pufferrocks — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:41:33 GMT

I got a gold mystery snail 2 weeks ago and he has grown alot since I got him. Where he has grown his shell is a differant color. Does anyone know why my snails shell is like this? Here is a picture of it if I can get it to work.

Adding Some Inverts

Butch2693 — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:24:22 GMT

I have a 55 gallon community tank and I am looking to get some inverts for it. I would prefer shrimp and I definitely do not want snails. My tank currently has two juvenile angel fish, one opal gourami, two chocolate gouramis, four swordtails, four lyretail mollies, one sailfin molly, twelve neon tetras, four zebra danios, one pleco (about 8 inches), and a few assorted platies. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Snail Help

Phishgirl — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:42:37 GMT

I have an apple snail. Originally, he was in a cold water aquarium but I moved him the to one of my tropical aquariums because he didn't like the cold. His shell has developed some holes and is being worn away in places. Some parts have a striped look to them. Otherwise, he's basically acting normally and moving around OK. Is there anything that can be done to fix the problems with his shell?

ghost shrimp...

midnighter — Wed, 28 May 2008 11:12:59 GMT

I was thinking about getting a few ghost shrimp to add to my small 2.5gallon tank with my male Betta fish. I was just curious if that would be an ok thing to do. and if so, what all would I need for the shrimp to make them feel comfortable. and any other hint/tips/advice on taking care of them would be appreciated.

food

bettasrcool — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 01:04:05 GMT

Do most snails live off of algae or do you need to provide something else for their diet? I got some 'mystery snails' at a local Petsmart recently so was just wondering...

New Snails

MtnFishBoy — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:55:14 GMT

Does anyone have any suggestions for snails? I am planning to put them in a tank by themselves and let them breed. What would be the best food to feed them? I know that they like plants/algae, but is there any specific kind of food that makes them more likely to breed?

Red Cherry Shrimp

Courtney — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:40:07 GMT

What fish are these shrimp compatible with? I would like to put a few RCS in my 10 gal. and maybe get them to breed once established. The fish I have already are: 5 neon tetras, 1 flame dwarf gourami(male), 1 fancy guppy(male), and a corydora. I also have a few live plants: Water Wisteria, Java Moss, Java Fern, and a dwarf water lily.

covering filter intake for shrimp

ogum — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:15:54 GMT

Hi everyone, I have a 20 gallon tank cycled and everything, but the filter is one of those that hangs on the back of the tank, and sucks in water through a tube that goes down. I have heard people say to cover the intake, but I'm not quite sure how to do that?

Or would it be better just to use a sponge filter?

Trumpet Snails

Miller — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 07:35:12 GMT

Just wanting some information on trumpet snails. Do they have to have a sand or can they live in gravel? If I ever had a sand tank I would definetly get trumpet snails considering the fact they mainly stay in the gravel.

Shirmp and guppies

guppygirl1990 — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 17:24:36 GMT

I was wondering if I could add some shirmp with my guppies.Its a 20 gallon with alot of plants in it.I was thinking about bambo shirmp.I have neven kept shirmp before how much care do they need?Thanks.

What can I add?

CHUUNNNKKKK!!!! — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:29:55 GMT

I have a 6 gallon hex with 3 gold danios and 3 zebra danios. I wanna know if there is a snail or shrimp (or other) that I could add that would be safe. Thanks!

snails

goldfishkid — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 13:03:58 GMT

i've got a 20 gal tank bowfront w/2 fantail goldfish & 4 snails i found in a lake i was visiting but i don't know i'f my fantails will get will they?

What's your favourite invertabrate?

FastFoward5k — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 05:39:35 GMT

Mine's the Banded Shrimp, how about you? :D

need adivce on shrimp or snails

filipem — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 00:59:58 GMT

I was thinking of getting some shrimp or snails for my ten gallon. Just to help clean up left over food and stir up the gravel. I don't want anything too big or anything that requires special food or conditions. I also plan on breeding the two german rams in the ten gallon so what ever I get can't be a threat to eggs or fry. Any suggestions?

I think my shrimp died

octopuslover — Sat, 24 May 2008 06:40:48 GMT

Yesterday I took everything out of my tank to clean it and I didn't see my bamboo shrimp anywhere. I guessing he died and got eaten. Should I get another one ?

Red Cherry shrimp

filipem — Tue, 06 May 2008 21:03:24 GMT

I have been thing of getting a few of these for one of my tanks does anyone know if they are compatible with Discus or German Rams?

snails

staffordmom — Wed, 21 May 2008 09:04:04 GMT

I bought live plants and so, of course, now I have snails. My question is should I just leave them alone or get rid of them? Will it hurt to just leave them in there? I guess they might eat holes in my plants, huh?

staffordmom

snails

Krib — Sun, 18 May 2008 18:49:44 GMT

I've never had much luck on snails, what's the secret. Any advice?

Shrimp in a 1 Gallon

Squid — Sat, 10 May 2008 15:46:08 GMT

I've got a 1 gallon tank with a hood, light, filter, two bamboo stalks and some java moss. I would like to have it as a shrimp only tank but I don't know how many I could have in there. Ghost shrimp are the most common kind I have seen in my LFS, so how many of these guys would be alright?

Are there any particular things I should do to make this a good shrimp home?

Fish bullies

FisheLady — Sun, 04 May 2008 19:48:58 GMT

My 2 year old, 3inch, redtail shark keeps picking on my , 10 month old khuli loach which is only an inch ,maybe a little more. Whenever I feed them or he tries to swim about the tank, the "shark attack" begins. As you can imagine it's quite difficult to remove either one to another tank. I have lots of plants and they both move very quickly. Help anyone?

Your favorite invertabrate

fredburger999 — Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:58:27 GMT

My favorite would be octopusses. Or is it octopi? Blah, whatever.

Shrimp Safe for Your Community

jfish13 — Sat, 05 Apr 2008 08:36:08 GMT

Cherry Shrimp, blueberry shrimp, ghost shrimp, amano shrimp, flower shrimp,bumblebee shrimp, crystal red shrimp, red nosed shrimp, tiger shrimp, and green shrimp are just a few of the so much more varieties available to the hobbyist for community tanks. If you are a member and know of another freshwater shrimp safe for communitys. Just say so by kindly replying. :)

Bettas and shrimp?

Mindnova — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:51:59 GMT

My wife has taken a interest in Bettas but I get to do the ground work. So heres my Idea of a setup for her that I think allows me to finally get to keep shrimp.

First I will use a 20 gal. long tank and divide it into three sections. This will allow her to have three bettas and then I can plant the tank and put shrimp in among the bettas. This way I just need one filter system for the setup.

Or would I be better off with multiple tanks for the bettas and shrimp. I have limited room and between my back problems and my heart condition lifting is out of the question. But I must say fish keeping is giving me the therapy of owning a pets and indoor gardening.

Thank you all for you input.

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