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RE: Guppy breeding

FattFishy — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 07:18:22 GMT

Molly and guppy? Could be possible.

You should allow them back into the main tank when they're about half the size of the regular fish. You wouldn't want them being chased around too much.

RE: Guppy breeding

Jeny — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 04:53:33 GMT

They both look like females @ this point But one is alot lighter then the other so who knows? When can i let them join in the community tank?
ps I think their one of each Molly & guppy

RE: Guppy breeding

FattFishy — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 07:18:11 GMT

I do not know when sexing is possible but just when a gonopodium or flag anal fin is noticed, sexing them is possible. The males will get noticeably colorful (depending on the daddy) and the female will stay gray most of the time. Good luck!

RE: Guppy breeding

Jeny — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 05:53:12 GMT

They look fine & ever so cute I just crushed up some more fish food they love to eat poop and swim! too cute When will they get their color can u already tell them from male or female atthis point?

RE: Guppy breeding

FattFishy — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:51:29 GMT

Congrats! Looks like it all payed off.

Feed VERY little, the remaining food portions can be toxic when decaying.

I'd say to increase the temp to 78 at least, 72 is very cold for little guppies. Just by a suitable heater, that's way too strong for a 1.5 gallon tank. You'd need those mini heaters.

RE: Guppy breeding

pufferrocks — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:05:06 GMT

Congratulations on your new babys, I am sure you are so excited! Just feed sparingly and watch them grow.

RE: Guppy breeding

JCHAMPAGNE — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:17:48 GMT

Don't use that heater. It may over heat that 1.5 gal tank and kill your babies. Just make sure your fish room maintains a72 degree (plus or minus two degrees) temp and they will be fine. D0 NOT over feed! Think tiny mouth - tiny portion.

RE: Guppy breeding

Jeny — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:49:55 GMT

Yeah our Isabella had her babies and maybe ate them too? I only saved two Weve got twins AWEEEEEE!!!!I love it!:) Im so happy Question what do i do next I put them in the 1.5 gallon for right now with some crushed fish flakes they look so content and Look at me as im the mother I feel so honored Ps WHat about a certain temp for the fry The temp? right now is on 72 74 or so Do they need a heater? I bought an heater last night for a 5-15 last night WOuld this be too much? I plan to put some plants too for them to feel a lil cozy Thats just my idea what s yall's?

RE: Guppy breeding

Jeny — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:38:09 GMT

Thanks so much for the Great ideas!! They will be very helpful on this journey of first time breeding Im thinking bout it & very determined I'll try my best at it!!:D

RE: Guppy breeding

FattFishy — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:00:36 GMT

I JUST HATCHED A GREAT IDEA!

Materials: Tank Dividers

Get one for the 10 gallon tank. Should be 10'' by 12'' to fit a standard 10 gallon aquarium.

Place the divider so that one side has 15'' space and the other has 5'' of space. Place the pregnant female guppies on the smaller side and other tankmates in the other. You may need to move it around the give each side enough space.

Some divider will be needed to seperate the pregnant guppies to prevent each other's fry eating. Using something fish-safe (like some plastic), cut it to fit the inside of the netting. For instance, if 5'' space for the pregnant guppies are given, place the 12'' X 5'' border in between the two guppies to give each guppy equivalent space. Now you have fry-safe environments. This is not needed but will greatly help.

Add hiding spaces... using decorations from the tank, arrange all to the guppies' nursery. (If it doesn't fit don't bother trying to fit it :P )

After birth, remove the guppy as needed. Gather up the fry (removing the decor now will help) and let them loose in their section. DO NOT REMOVE THE BORDERS; NOT ONE. After both guppies are done giving birth, remove the border (not the tank divider, the nursery divider) and you should have guppy fry mingling. If you don't want some sort of gene pool destruction, leave it.

Now this is a really makeshift setup and doesn't look too good but will be alright. This might be needed many times and after the babies are raised, sell, give away, etc.

Now does this really help? No seperate 1 gallon tank needed... you could use that as a nursery.

Instructions for having a 1 gallon nursery: Keeping one batch of fry in it, the other batch should still be inside their large section. This may seem confusing... remove the border, (NOT TANK DIVIDER, the nursery divider) and the one batch of fry left should have all the space.

If something doesn't make sense, just ask for me to clarify... this idea came from the top of my head just now.

RE: Guppy breeding

pufferrocks — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:00:26 GMT

If you remove the female from the tank as soon as she has her fry and put some sort of plant in the tank for the fry to hide around if needed they should be okay without the breeder box.

You could get a rubbermaid plastic container to raise the fry in or keep fish seperated if needed, they aren't to expensive.

RE: Guppy breeding

Jeny — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:46:21 GMT

Thanks sooo much fatty fish & all That quite alright fatty u know best hun;) Im moving jennifer bk in the community then will see what happens from here DO i still need to put the one (isabella) in a breeding/spawning box?

ps Will it fit Its an 2 way breeder

RE: Guppy breeding

FattFishy — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:07:28 GMT

I'm not sure if you'll be satisfied but... keeping two females will cause some trouble. First, it's crowded and the bioload is huge on the tank. Second, whenever they give birth, the one not doing so will eat the fry. Try leaving only one, better than losing all.

RE: Guppy breeding

Jeny — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:18:53 GMT

I was just wondering i put my two guppy females in the 1.5 gallon Is this ok if they hang out in there till they have the fry or if any at all? still not too sure if there prego yet? but they r showing the signs so is it ok? if so ill have to seperate the females from the males in another tank but my budget is low @ this point to do so how do i go about doing all this sepration stuff? I have two mollies male & femaLE four guppy two male two females Some info would a great help being this is my first time breeding :D:unsure::unsure:

RE: Guppy breeding

FattFishy — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:38:46 GMT

Yes, you can go ahead and keep it inside the 1.5 gallon. Try only doing the guppy. Guppies can live for some time in the 1.5 gallon but will need to be moved right after birth. Remember to cycle/seed the tank.

RE: Guppy breeding

Jeny — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:49:38 GMT

ps or can i just keep the fry kinda a grow out in the 1.5 @ move the females bk into the community tank when they ve had the fry?

RE: Guppy breeding

Jeny — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:37:57 GMT

Question Is a 1.5 gallon tank big enough to house 1 prego gold molly and 2 female guppys The reason is they may be all pregnant ill need this tank to keep them in becaause of them having fry soon

RE: Guppy breeding

Jeny — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 08:42:07 GMT

Ive got nothing so far.. Im hoping soon though Im being more patient with it these dayz Maybe ina couple more weeks or so Im thinkin bout cycling another tank soon for the females I Gotta keep em seperated after the fry :D

ps dont want anymore babies

RE: Guppy breeding

FattFishy — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:01:54 GMT

Seems like real fun! Now it's for sure pregnant and around mid-way through end September they will give birth! Prepare some hiding spots!

Keep us updated! (Lots of exclamations!)

RE: Guppy breeding

Jeny — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:28:57 GMT

Its been 2 weeks since ive bought the 3/now2 cute female guppy so far the gravid spot is showing up alot darker each day but after eating u cant tell if they have one? So Im guessin/hoping there are with fry!! lol They all are gettin along well *crossin fingers* My molly marigold however is bustin out with fry Her and as 4 mickey he is behaving trying to mate with her but still behavin i should say:D

RE: Guppy breeding

FattFishy — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:55:03 GMT

No problem. I think doing water changes on a weekly basis is less expensive. Or is it? (psst, I'm not saying to use salt :))

RE: Guppy breeding

math-only aquarium — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:30:53 GMT

Just a Side Note,

But salt doesn't evaporate when water does. As such, never add salt when replacing evaporated water or the salt level will rise too high.

As to the sick fish, the best way to keep it from happening again is to keep the water clean. This means you should be doing weekly, 25% water changes.

MOA

RE: Guppy breeding

Jeny — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 09:50:56 GMT

Ive only been adding the salt because of my other fish silver molly had that bacterial infection & he died So Im tryin to avoid that from happenin again I guess im just so worried about that but i wont add so much afterall I had no idea Thanks so much for the helpful info!@ Fatty fish evryone!!:)

RE: Guppy breeding

FattFishy — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:54:52 GMT

Gah Jeny what are you doing?

You read the explanation by MOA right...? I'm thinking that the only fish in your tank are guppies and mollies. If so, adding salt won't hurt.... but it's not needed. Your choice as to what happens. You don't have to suddenly do water changes to rid of it; just do your regular cleaning schedule so that the salinity drops slowly.

The only reason salt should be in a freshwater tank is to lower the damage nitrite does to the fish's gills. It's used in the lfs temporary tanks to lower the damage.

1 tbs per 5 gallons is what I used to do... before I found out it wastes money and isn't meant for a freshwater tank. (NOTE: FRESHWATER) I also had cherry barbs, guppies, balloon mollies, ghost shrimp... and I wanted plants that couldn't live in brackish conditions so I took out the salt. The desire of a group of salt-sensitive cories, plants, and just plain fish stress made me do many water changes over a week. But that was for the cories mainly.

RE: Guppy breeding

Jeny — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:43:11 GMT

Yes i add salt every water change!!! (each month) I do take out the evaported amount and replace it The pet store told me to add a palm not a whole palm but inside the palm amount:)

RE: Guppy breeding

FattFishy — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:05:29 GMT

Ok. Thanks for the explanation... although adding salt isn't necessary whatsoever in a well established tank...

RE: Guppy breeding

math-only aquarium — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:48:15 GMT

Hello,

Salt being good for livebearers is both true and untrue. You see, most livebearers have a huge range in the wild that includes estuaries (brackish) and even into tributaries (very fresh water). As such, livebearers are one of the most tollerant families of fish on the planet with regard to salt content. In fact, some mollies (like black mollies) can survive in full marine conditions and even breed under such conditions. As such, salt or no salt with livebearers is usually more a matter of preference than necessity.

Specifically, the salt can help the young fry in that salt reduces the effect of nitrites. Therefore, if you plan on breeding your fish in poor water conditions, then adding salt is a good thing. Nonetheless, simply cleaning more often is both better for the fish and cuts down on cost as well (no needed salt).

MOA

RE: Guppy breeding

FattFishy — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:19:32 GMT

Um... draco... did you know that guppies shouldn't live in brackish conditions? They're called freshwater fish. But really, does it help? I'd like to know.... or you're trying to raise your tank's hardness? What really does the salt do?

Yeah, I covered everything about filters sucking up fry and such.

Jeny, report your latest observations and we'll go from there.

RE: Guppy breeding

draco — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:44:08 GMT

easiest way i found to breed guppies is 3 males and 12 ladies in a 30 to 40 gallon tank with lots of fake plants. next every FOUR weeks start adding salt to the tank to raise the salinity to 20 to 30% at those levels they bred for me like rabbits on steroids. just remember to raise the salinity SLOW though they can live in a 100%+ they stiil need to get use to the water change. after they breed leave the salt out of water changes for a couple months depending on salinity levels and if they are breeding to fast to keep up with also NEVER leave the fry in the tank with the adults put them in a 10 to 15 gallon tank that can accomadate the young also run a sponge filter so the fry dont get sucked in to the filter.

RE: Guppy breeding

FattFishy — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:25:32 GMT

You expect to see many beginners start out with livebearers to breed cause of their ease to do so. I find stopping it is harder to induce it.

It could be pregnant already or in the very early stages. Seems like the early stages in my view.

My avatar has the picture of the male balloon molly I keep referring to... my favorite little fat balloon.

RE: Guppy breeding

Jeny — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:28:36 GMT

i just got the female guppies last sunday afternoon:D They may have already been pregnant!! Yay! Just like today when i went to the pet store i picked out a female orange molly the sales lady said shes already prego so like u said who knows with the female guppies? i ll find out in two more weeks if its the case:)

RE: Guppy breeding

FattFishy — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:21:42 GMT

I do not have experience with guppies but rather balloon mollies. I see the male always trying to mate again with the same female but only sometimes. He's idle a little while and during their algae feeding time, he sometimes has the urge to mate.

Now, I don't see any rejecting of the mate but instead chasing off the other females; seems like a protective gesture.

I have a feeling the gravid spot is visible on some of the lighter pigmented fish and not on those that are dark.

Who knows? I have a feeling they're pregnant.

When did they have these features? How long was this going on? Guppy pregnant time is 4-6 weeks.

RE: Guppy breeding

Jeny — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:01:30 GMT

Mine do have the gravid spot but the only get it showing in darker after they r fed & the book im reading on it about says that the gravid spot usually looks darker before the eat but in this case its after? Very confusing i might say. How else can i tell if the are prego and how long does it take for guppy to mate or find their mate also Will they refuse (the males) or reject the female guppies? :unsure:

RE: Guppy breeding

math-only aquarium — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:28:53 GMT

Some female guppies don't show a distinguishable gravid spot--due to inborn genetics in captivity and the pigments they may or may not have.

MOA

RE: Guppy breeding

FattFishy — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:37:04 GMT

Doesn't sound like an overfed guppy.

Wait awhile, I think the gravid spot needs some time to develop.

RE: Guppy breeding

Jeny — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:28:41 GMT

I feed them flakes only a pinch or two daily around 9 10 am & for snacks i feed them shrimp & bood worms only about three times a week

ps they really don t care for the shrimp though

RE: Guppy breeding

FattFishy — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:57:40 GMT

I don't see anything there... it looks like it's just well fed. Do you overfeed?

Tell me your feeding regime, including how long it takes for them to eat, when you feed them, how many times, on which days, and what you feed.

RE: Guppy breeding

Nikita — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:54:28 GMT

Hmm...I don't see a gravid patch on either of those fish. Maybe it's just too blurry. :I

RE: Guppy breeding

Jeny — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:10:02 GMT

Here they both are can u tell?? The one behind use to be more slender since sUn afteroon shes gotten more tubbier is that a word LOL! Ive also heard that they could be bloated & that could mean a problem Of being very un healthy possible death

RE: Guppy breeding

FattFishy — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:17:41 GMT

Is it blue? Does it look like the one in the picture?

I would say it's pregnant.