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I'm actually kinda in agreement with MOA here, although it is nice to see that it does work.
And yeah, those nitrate levels would definitely make very squirmy. Nitrates should be 0 in the wild, ideally, and even though almost all these fish have been aquacultured so long they are much more tolerant than their wild counterparts, I never see it as a bad thing to keep nitrates as low as possible. For me, that means no higher than 20ppm, and usually at 5-10. But then, I know many goldie-keepers that simply can't get it to stay below 80ppm for more than a day, so to each his own.
I don't see it as necessarily a bad thing to set up a filtration system that mimics natural bacterial processes as much as possible, and in that way, I like the concept of this filter. But with the natural human tendency to overstock fish in these closed systems, I don't think we'll ever really be free of water changes. Not that I mind. :D
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| "Mimics natural conditions" is a nice way to phrase it, but the bottom line is that nearly every natural freshwater system is dynamic. In other words, water is always flowing into and out of them: from tributaries to main rivers to the esturaries--its a cycle of replacement. As such, there is nothing "natural" about an aquarium fish that don't enjoy water changes. Opinion, of course, but fundamentally that filter and ones like it aren't natural in any sense of the word.
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| In the best of all possible worlds everybody who has an aquarium would do a 25% water change every week. The problem is that reality rears its ugly head. It turns out that the vast majority of hobbyists don't do water changes, for whatever reasons -- don't like to get their hands wet -- too messy, etc. Given that the reality is that folks don't do water changes, rather than screaming into the wind that they really should do them, it's nice to know that there are some products out there that can make it much easier on the fish in a tank where there are no, or minimal, water changes. Please understand where I am coming from here -- I absolutely would like to have folks do water changes, but given that they are not going to do them I appreciate that there are things to make life better for the fish in the tanks that are not getting any water changes.
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Well, I still don't agree, at all, but it's not worth arguing about. As always, opinion tends to be inseparable from this great hobby of ours. As such, I guess I'll just have to be satisfied with the fact that you were willing to hear our case and that we can agree that fish's lives should at least be made "better." Thanks for listening.
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The fact that we have a number of us who have kept fish for awhile here on FishChannel.com is what makes it interesting. There is definitely not any absolute one way to keep fish -- and certainly the way that I do it is just what works for me.
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| I would like to give this filter a try. I strongly believe that all tanks should have two filters running all the time. Just in case one stops working and for better water flow/current. David, This might seem like a silly question by now knowing anything about this product I thought I would ask. Do you know if doing a weekly water change with this filter mess up it's ability to remove nitrates? It would be nice to have a filter like this when life gets crazy and you miss a water change here and there or if you go on vacation. I know the importance of water changes but if there is a product that will allow the removal of nitrates it's worth looking at, and trying for ourselves before we form an option on wether it's a good or bad. Unless you test it for yourself how do you know if it works or not? BTW. I think canister filters are the best. :)
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